Political: Holy SHIT!!

[hkellick]

Holy SHIT.

John Kerry was on FIRE yesterday.

I wish I'd been able to see the speech last night (we did tape. We'll try to watch tonight), but just reading the text of his speech.. holy shit.

Words can not convey how... proud I am that we have a democrat that I can stand behind. Up to this point, I've disliked Kerry because I felt that his politics were as dirty as Bush's. I felt he was too busy playing point-counterpoint against Bush and his cronies.

Dude. Just reading the text of his speech...

As a Democrat, I am now ready to vote for John Kerry. Not because he's not Bush, but because he's John Kerry.

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I think this may be the last time I use this particular icon. It's time for a new more appropriate one, I suspect.
Just not going to try and get it whilst at work.

Comments

[lite.livejournal.com]

I don't believe Church and State are seperate enough.
A community should be allowed to be united if they so choose. But there's a strong difference between "We, the National Organization of Women believe that the best candidate for president is XXXX" and "My pastor told me that I'm going to hell if I don't vote for XXXX".
One is an INFORMED decision. The other is not.

Listen, give me an intelligent convservative who can point and counterpoint me on why Bush SHOULD be President and I'll accept that. But show me the average voter that's just "falling in line" and I can not and will not believe that is acceptable.

And I can and will expect a politician to seperate himself from God. (In terms of public policy and doing his job as President.) You know why? Because a man's relationship with his God is personal, but his relationship with the country is not and should not be. Every president ever elected (including your friend, Bill Clinton) was in some way a religious man. But that faith has not, before George Bush, dictated how the man ran the country. He decided based on informed decisions from a panel of trusted advisors, not from a book at least 2,000 years old.

I'm not saying we need to vote for atheists and agnostics only. I'm not saying religious men have no place in government. What I'm saying is that a man's religion should be seperate from a man's politics.

That is how Church and State should be kept seperate. Religion has no place in politics. And politics has no place in religion.

[dustkitten.livejournal.com]

If a man determines his morals through a religion, then there's no way he can just shove that aside to make a choice. However, there's a difference between saying, "I believe in family values because of the #th Commandment" and saying "WE should believe in family values because of the #th Commandment." And even if those words don't come to the forefront, they are still the MOTIVATION for his actions.

I hope to God that your comment about Clinton was sarcasm, because I'd rather sacrifice him to feminazis than politely shake his hand.

-A-

[lite.livejournal.com]

You probably can't seperate the man from his religion and some of his morals might very well come from a good religious youth/educations/whichever. I'm not arguing that point at all.

I'm trying to find the right words to explain how I feel religion should have no part in politics.

Maybe what I mean to be saying is that no background of any sort.. whether it be ethnic or sex or race or religion should dominate the county the way I feel George Bush has done and that others like him have done.

Religion != Politics. We are not a theocracy. We are a republic. For the people, by the people. Christianity has it's agenda. America has it's own agenda. I'm not sure the two meet. I'm not sure the truly could ever meet. When our founders wrote the constitution, they knew this and specifically tried to ban religion from wiggling it's way into politics.

I'm trying to do better, but I'm failing here. But I'll stand by my opinion that religion has no place in politics. Our founders knew it and I believe it to be so as well.