Josh and Soreth and Lain, o my!
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hkellickI do have other things to discuss.
Yay! Another project done! One less things to deal with! Yay!
I should be ashamed of myself. In those last hours of working on the project, I ceased caring. It's not quite right? Fuck it, it's just a homework,.
I should be ashamed. But I'm past caring at the moment.
That leaves... one final, one final presentation, one project, one writeup and a partridge in a pear tree.
Well.. maybe not the partridge.
Much the pity. It would amuse my kitties so!
Speaking of my kitties. Go Check Out My Webpage again! I added a new section on my little monsters, including an ode to Hot Stuff :)
What else? Weight loss is back down.. 261 for two days straight. I need to be able to get back to the gym. I've been too busy today and too sick yesterday :P
Can't think of anything else.. except for the bulk of the post.
While I have some time, I need to talk about this whole thing. It's weighing very heavily on my mind.
Unlike other parties, unless yelled at, I intend to mention all parties involved in this. My opinions, as per usual, are not censored nor particularly politically correct.
Those of you who read![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
trillain's livejournal already got a small angry burst of information on the entire thing. Here it is in a nutshell:
Sometime last week (Thursday, I think. Too lazy to look atsoreth's livejournal for myself, soreth and jariel had a heart to heart. Jariel (henceforth called Josh since that's what I know him as on Chaotic) apparently has had feelings for Soreth, but didn't want to tell him, due to the fact that Soreth was in a relationship with Trillain (henceforth known as Lain or Trillian. That's the two names I know her as online.) and Soreth, apparently, felt the same though he was not AWARE of it.
Or something like that.
To get the real details, you'll need to ask Soreth or Josh themselves. This is just how I understand it.
Anyways, after that night.. Josh agreed he liked Soreth and Soreth's heart burned for Josh (those were his words..)
I wasn't aware of any of this until two days ago. Soreth said he had alot on my mind and when I asked what he promised if I could keep a secret he'd tell me. I kept the secret.. well.. I'm not now, but he's already told Lain, so I'm guessing it's OK to talk about it now. He told me about the situation and how he thought he loved Josh and he wasn't sure what to do about Lain. I told him he had to tell her. He did. She needed to know.
Hence why I posted recently that yet another predicition (this one being "I can't see Soreth and Lain working out". I said it for different reasons, but still...) coming true.
Two nights ago, Soreth called Lain into a private room and they talked.
Now the FUN really begins.
Lain's pissed (as she should be, imho) but she can't be mad without feeling bad or guilty about it.
Soreth's being totally rational about it (Yes, you should be pissed. Yes, I understand.) which.. isn't helping. But then, as I've said to Lain, it's easy for Soreth to be rational. He did the dumping. He thought things through (I'm ASSUMING) long before he told me or Lain.
And Lain has to figure out how to get the rage out of her system so that she find some sort of closure. Which, listening to her last night, just isn't easy for her.
How do I feel about it? What about MY opinions? Well... I intend to tell you!
I'm not the least bit bothered by the idea of a guy realizing that, yes, he may like guys too/better, but at the same time I don't condone the way this was handled. For Soreth to "just realize" he never liked Lain like that.
It makes me question the depths of his feelings for Josh.
I asked Soreth yesterday.. what's different? How did you suddenly know that you didn't like Lain like that, but you do like Josh?
His answer doesn't totally satisfy me. His answer was that he felt his heart aching for Josh. That every hour of every day he had trouble concentrating because his thoughts were with Josh.
Here's the catch, though. I've been there. I've spent days thinking over and over of how much it would be cool to be with someone. Hell, I felt that way ofdustkitten for a couple weeks. And then I met her. The chemistry, to put it bluntly, wasn't there. Our friendship totally fell apart from there (there were other extenuating factors, mind.. but this is true nonetheless.)
And, heaven forbid, what happens if he does meet Josh, tries to get physically close to him and emberassedly realizes.. this isn't right?
Let me make my feelings clear here... I am NOT angry at Soreth for falling in love with Josh. Nor do I suddenly hate him cause of how he dumped Trillian. I still consider Soreth one of my very best friends. Yes, it would have been nice if he could have handled the break up better, but.. I'm not sure I can see how he'd do it anyways. I can't imagine it as easy to say "Well.. I THOUGHT I loved you.. but I see now I don't. I actually love a guy instead."
I try to picture myself in a situation like that. Hell, I'd have flubbed it too.. probably worse.
Then again, I'd never dump a girl for a guy anyways. Now.. a girl for another girl.. that's different ;)
But, still, I have to wonder.
I'm not saying Soreth and Lain were perfect for each other. If this hadn't happened, I can honestly say I can see them having gone their own different ways eventually anyways.
At the same time, I can't say as I can see Soreth and Josh together either.
There, I've said it. The predicition again.
Let me back myself up, though. Why can't I see it? I can't see it because I feel I know Soreth and I'm not sure Soreth would ever be happy with anyone who didn't fully accept it on faith that his real life self was a dragon. I'm not sure Soreth would ever be happy with someone who wasn't pagan or taoist.. or at least open to the idea.
This is the point I expect comments on. I welcome them.. Soreth, Jariel, Trillian or.. anyone else. This is what I see based on what I know of the players involved. I could be right, I could be wrong. Only time will tell.
I dunno.
OK, time to post this!
Yay! Another project done! One less things to deal with! Yay!
I should be ashamed of myself. In those last hours of working on the project, I ceased caring. It's not quite right? Fuck it, it's just a homework,.
I should be ashamed. But I'm past caring at the moment.
That leaves... one final, one final presentation, one project, one writeup and a partridge in a pear tree.
Well.. maybe not the partridge.
Much the pity. It would amuse my kitties so!
Speaking of my kitties. Go Check Out My Webpage again! I added a new section on my little monsters, including an ode to Hot Stuff :)
What else? Weight loss is back down.. 261 for two days straight. I need to be able to get back to the gym. I've been too busy today and too sick yesterday :P
Can't think of anything else.. except for the bulk of the post.
While I have some time, I need to talk about this whole thing. It's weighing very heavily on my mind.
Unlike other parties, unless yelled at, I intend to mention all parties involved in this. My opinions, as per usual, are not censored nor particularly politically correct.
Those of you who read
trillain's livejournal already got a small angry burst of information on the entire thing. Here it is in a nutshell:Sometime last week (Thursday, I think. Too lazy to look at
soreth's livejournal for myself, soreth and jariel had a heart to heart. Jariel (henceforth called Josh since that's what I know him as on Chaotic) apparently has had feelings for Soreth, but didn't want to tell him, due to the fact that Soreth was in a relationship with Trillain (henceforth known as Lain or Trillian. That's the two names I know her as online.) and Soreth, apparently, felt the same though he was not AWARE of it.Or something like that.
To get the real details, you'll need to ask Soreth or Josh themselves. This is just how I understand it.
Anyways, after that night.. Josh agreed he liked Soreth and Soreth's heart burned for Josh (those were his words..)
I wasn't aware of any of this until two days ago. Soreth said he had alot on my mind and when I asked what he promised if I could keep a secret he'd tell me. I kept the secret.. well.. I'm not now, but he's already told Lain, so I'm guessing it's OK to talk about it now. He told me about the situation and how he thought he loved Josh and he wasn't sure what to do about Lain. I told him he had to tell her. He did. She needed to know.
Hence why I posted recently that yet another predicition (this one being "I can't see Soreth and Lain working out". I said it for different reasons, but still...) coming true.
Two nights ago, Soreth called Lain into a private room and they talked.
Now the FUN really begins.
Lain's pissed (as she should be, imho) but she can't be mad without feeling bad or guilty about it.
Soreth's being totally rational about it (Yes, you should be pissed. Yes, I understand.) which.. isn't helping. But then, as I've said to Lain, it's easy for Soreth to be rational. He did the dumping. He thought things through (I'm ASSUMING) long before he told me or Lain.
And Lain has to figure out how to get the rage out of her system so that she find some sort of closure. Which, listening to her last night, just isn't easy for her.
How do I feel about it? What about MY opinions? Well... I intend to tell you!
I'm not the least bit bothered by the idea of a guy realizing that, yes, he may like guys too/better, but at the same time I don't condone the way this was handled. For Soreth to "just realize" he never liked Lain like that.
It makes me question the depths of his feelings for Josh.
I asked Soreth yesterday.. what's different? How did you suddenly know that you didn't like Lain like that, but you do like Josh?
His answer doesn't totally satisfy me. His answer was that he felt his heart aching for Josh. That every hour of every day he had trouble concentrating because his thoughts were with Josh.
Here's the catch, though. I've been there. I've spent days thinking over and over of how much it would be cool to be with someone. Hell, I felt that way of
dustkitten for a couple weeks. And then I met her. The chemistry, to put it bluntly, wasn't there. Our friendship totally fell apart from there (there were other extenuating factors, mind.. but this is true nonetheless.)And, heaven forbid, what happens if he does meet Josh, tries to get physically close to him and emberassedly realizes.. this isn't right?
Let me make my feelings clear here... I am NOT angry at Soreth for falling in love with Josh. Nor do I suddenly hate him cause of how he dumped Trillian. I still consider Soreth one of my very best friends. Yes, it would have been nice if he could have handled the break up better, but.. I'm not sure I can see how he'd do it anyways. I can't imagine it as easy to say "Well.. I THOUGHT I loved you.. but I see now I don't. I actually love a guy instead."
I try to picture myself in a situation like that. Hell, I'd have flubbed it too.. probably worse.
Then again, I'd never dump a girl for a guy anyways. Now.. a girl for another girl.. that's different ;)
But, still, I have to wonder.
I'm not saying Soreth and Lain were perfect for each other. If this hadn't happened, I can honestly say I can see them having gone their own different ways eventually anyways.
At the same time, I can't say as I can see Soreth and Josh together either.
There, I've said it. The predicition again.
Let me back myself up, though. Why can't I see it? I can't see it because I feel I know Soreth and I'm not sure Soreth would ever be happy with anyone who didn't fully accept it on faith that his real life self was a dragon. I'm not sure Soreth would ever be happy with someone who wasn't pagan or taoist.. or at least open to the idea.
This is the point I expect comments on. I welcome them.. Soreth, Jariel, Trillian or.. anyone else. This is what I see based on what I know of the players involved. I could be right, I could be wrong. Only time will tell.
I dunno.
OK, time to post this!
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Date: 2001-12-13 05:12 pm (UTC)Ahem. Actually, I have more of a question... what is it that makes you think two different species (on faith as it were) couldn't be happy together? Perhaps I should rephrase: Why would Sor think that?
The reason why I ask is, well, I don't know. I used to think it wasn't possible, or that it shouldn't be. But then I realized I hadn't really thought about it.. now I can't think of a reason why not. Probably Sor himself was shocked! I would have been; the universe has quite a horrid track record for surprising its inhabitants...
If you have an answer, I'll be glad to lend an ear. :) Better yet, perhaps Sor himself will...