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an interesting article
I have to agree with the school. They did the right thing. The girl was wrong.
It is unacceptable to see a guy and girl making out publicly (in a cafeteria or anyplace publicly in the school).
So how is it any more acceptable for two girls to do so? Because she was making a social statement? Bullshit!
Her point is valid. I would suggest another way to show it, though.
I do think the school needs to have a discussion with said English Teacher though. I'm sure he meant well, but.. well.. noncomformist acts can backfire simply because they ARE noncomformist. Here's a good example of how.

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Date: 2003-11-21 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coderlemming.livejournal.com
It is unacceptable to see a guy and girl making out publicly (in a cafeteria or anyplace publicly in the school).

No, I have to disagree there. Due to the flood of hormones, it was definitely not that irregular an occurrence to see two people making out in my high school. Upon occasion, those two individuals weren't necessarily of opposite sexes, even.

Here's my take on it:

It was kind of a "don't look if you don't wanna see" policy. I think that's pretty much what made this act controversial: that she made such a big deal about it. If she was just kissing her girlfriend, as opposed to "giving tongue for a good cause", it'd be fine, in my book. Well, standing on a table was probably bad too, who wants to eat on that?

Point is, she's just a teenager who made just a bit TOO much of a statement. Doh. It happens. We learn to adjust to society when we're young... and I guess, in that case, I don't see much wrong with her being suspended, she'll learn how to make a more subtle but potent statement in the future. Maybe she'll become a lesbian out of spite.

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Date: 2003-11-21 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kholnuu.livejournal.com
I highly doubt that a straight girl would "make out" with another straight girl to prove a point. Oh, sure, the principal or whoever it was said they made out. But who's to say what really happened? I'll bet five bucks it was a simple kiss, and geez, who really cares about a kiss in the cafeteria? Teenagers make out all over the place in high school and nobody cares.

When they start having sex in the hallways... that's another issue. (And yes, that happened in my high school)

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Date: 2003-11-21 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lite.livejournal.com
I dunno. You may be right. I've never heard of a girl kissing another in protest on how homosexuals are being treated, though. So..who knows?

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Date: 2003-11-21 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dustkitten.livejournal.com

I highly doubt that a straight girl would "make out" with another straight girl to prove a point.


Did you READ the article? The girl said flat-out she was making a statement. She yelled "END HOMOPHOBIA NOW!"

Haaser said she was making a statement on behalf of gay and lesbian students because she was bothered by the verbal and physical harassment they face.

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Date: 2003-11-21 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kholnuu.livejournal.com
Making a statement does not necessarily imply making out, swapping spit, full tongue action. When they say "making a statement", I figured it was mostly the shouting on the tabletop and the simple fact of kissing another girl.

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Date: 2003-11-21 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lite.livejournal.com
I would suggest, though, that even if it wasn't an irregular occurance, making out publicly should not be encouraged by school staff. She made a big deal out of it and she got caught and she got suspended. I see no wrong by the school.

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Date: 2003-11-21 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kholnuu.livejournal.com
But nor should making out in public (whether they were actually "making out" isn't the point here) be a reason for suspension. If it was, half of every high school on the planet would be suspended every other week. I really think the school WAY overreacted.

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Date: 2003-11-21 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skrshawk.livejournal.com
Having been in a high school where it was known sex was going on in the bathrooms and making out was pretty part for the course (straight couples publically, lesbian couples more privately, there wasn't much of gay couples). Civil disobedience however usually doesn't call attention to itself like a public demonstration does - and the latter is patently unacceptable in an enclosed public space.

It would mean more if they were actually lesbian and had no issue showing it in public rather than doing so simply to make a point. It would be about as ridiculous as having public sexual activity with another person of same gender - it's just as patently unacceptable regardless of whether it was meant to be enjoyed or meant to make a statement.

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